Bill Covert

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  Letters Project - What do I say to my family

  by Odrade in

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  hey my old friends, i figured since this is where we landed when we first fled the watchtower, looking for support, back in '03, maybe i should pop back in and show you my latest project - i see some familiar faces around here.

  i've been working on a website to function as part story, part news.

  my plan is to feature what people are doing to integrate/reintegrate into their community - whether that's remaining in the xjw circles to help others who are leaving, or moving out into the larger social sphere and starting projects, being activists for other causes, etc.

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  Letters Huh

  I have written a few, tried to count them but the Windows vista crashed which had most of them, so just a estimate some where over 300. They are the letters that the WTB&TS referred to in the 2013 summer convention talk entitled "Human Apostates" talk.. They said "there is a new tact tic apostates are using, sending letters to the publishers homes" or so as I only heard the quote on this site by two posters. Five of my sons was attending and heard that statement and knew they were talking about their dad.

  The reason they were written to the homes of the publishers was that the church "wall of silence" is penetrated as I was plugging directly into church grape vine. It worked great.

  Evidently they are from out of left field, hard to understand as I have only had one person show any interest in them. Although there was one little point picked up on which got included in a project they were working on. Supposedly they are close to getting done and I think they are going have posting somewhere. So after I get to see the project perhaps you may be interested in some.

  You are going to need a 'bleep' button if you are interested in posting them.

  Bill
  
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  The JW's 2 witness rule applied to Molestation is wrong AND HERE'S WHY

  by wozza in

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  2. child-abuse

  this is not the first time i've written about this, but with the royal commission happening here in australia, and having fought against the wts on this problem of molestation in the wts over a period of 15 years i feel a need to explain what i found which contradicts what the wts says and the way they handle cases within their society.. i am not going to give the history of my involvement but just state simply why no-one can believe what the wts says ,and we all know the scriptures they use to not handle cases of molestation properly , so here goes , it's not tricky or hard to understand i think, but just use the bible against them (hope this is used at the commission).. i,m using the revised berkely version in plain english here ,.

  the context is law giving in the book of deuteronomy ch 22 : vs 22 - 27. vs 22 "when a man is surprised abed with a married woman,they shall both die ,the man who lay with the woman and the woman too; you shall wipe out the evil from israel.".

  so this is easy to grasp ,man sleeps with married woman ,judged to die -they got caught.. next vs 23- 24 "when a man comes upon a girl in the city, who is a virgin betrothed to another , and he lies with her,24 you shall bring them both to the gate of the city and stone them to death, the girl because she did not cry out, although the city was all about her, and the man because he violated his neighbour's wife.

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  I have used your workmanship in my own project in Redding Calif. I was very impressed as to how important this played in ARC. Very Impressed
  
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  Personal Data Permission (Spain)

  by paradiseseeker in

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  i had the meeting yesterday and there it was announced that there will be a new law passed in spain regarding personal data.

  that law makes it compulsory for the wt spanish branch to collect a signed permission from the publishers to keep and utilize personal data.

  no choice was given to us, we were just told to make sure we hand in our signed permissions before may 18th.

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  I wish this situation came about in the mid 1980's when I was an elder and realized Matt.24:34 was headed down the tube in 1984. This would of been a beautiful 'graceful way out', just don't sign and be a elder no more. That would of been sweet.
  
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  Who Are You?

  by compound complex in

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  2. friends

  i have made repeated attempts to move on with my life despite your decision to plague my every thought and move.

  i cannot move forward.

  a change of venue, that of diet, even new clothes have afforded me a frivolous and temporary elevation of spirits.

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  Very impressive. I know exactly what you are saying.

  Here it is a mental bondage that silences a voice to be heard, to be able to teach 5 sons and 10 grandchildren. Today as I read your words i wait to see what results if any will a letter to County Mental Health will have the power to break the power of "Who Are You" that has controlled all the decisions that a family i have financed for 48 years is held bondage to.

  I have #5 son of whom I have written about here, currently in their control as a direct result of the incompetence of WTB&TS Northern Calif. Service Dept. Desk [same guy who cost the WTB&TS a lot of money with the Red Bluff molester Henderson] handling of a $4.250M unregistered securities fraud. The object of that letter is; can I actually get the WTB&TS into court on a civil rights violation. Just a one man project that is comprised of out of the box thinking.

  There is a three year project out there that is going to have a large impact on breaking the power of "Who Are You" in our Northern Calif. area, but it is a slow go, been like a "carrot on a stick in front of a horse" . That I don't think will be published it time to save my son's chances for recovery.

  I have only been at the project of breaking the power of "Who Are You" since 1989. So as i read your post I am in another waiting game to see if I finally succeeded in breaking that power. As I said just a one man project, but your writing was a very powerful and beautiful assessment of that which has controlled my existence. Very well done!

  Bill
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses to settle sex-abuse case - San Diego Reader (California, US), Friday, January 12, 2018

  by darkspilver in

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  2. child-abuse

  jehovah's witnesses to settle sex-abuse case - san diego reader (california, us), friday, january 12, 2018.

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  Check Watchtower Documents for date of next hearing. It says next month.
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses to settle sex-abuse case - San Diego Reader (California, US), Friday, January 12, 2018

  by darkspilver in

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  2. child-abuse

  jehovah's witnesses to settle sex-abuse case - san diego reader (california, us), friday, january 12, 2018.

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  supposedly at the end of this month.
  
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  Were visits to the library an important part of your childhood?

  by compound complex in

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  2. friends

  greetings, fellow bibliophiles:.

  i remember how sad i was, as a little child, when our beloved carnegie library was razed (unsafe, structurally).

  the same tragedy occurred when we moved to a new town and that similar architectural treasure was demolished to put up a new and gleaming building of steel and glass.

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  Horatio Hornblower, Max Brand, Zane Grey, "Audel's" tool books, good stuff to escape into.
  
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  Royal Australian Commission - Recomendations for Jehovahs Witnesses

  by curiousconfused in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the report is finally out.......... ————————.

  recommendations to the jehovah’s witness organisation.

  recommendation 16.27. the jehovah’s witness organisation should abandon its application of the two-witness rule in cases involving complaints of child sexual abuse.. recommendation 16.28. the jehovah’s witness organisation on should revise its policies so that women are involved in processes related to invesation and determining allegations of child sexual abuse.. recommendation 16.29. the jehovah’s witness organisation should no longer require its members to shun those who disassociate from the organisation in cases where the reason for disassocia on is related to a person being a victim of child sexual abuse..

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  definition of a Royal Commission; "A iron fist in a velvet glove".
  
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  Hee Haw was not clean

  by The Real Edward Gentry in

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  so, my son bought me a device that allows me to look up and watch anything i want.

  i remember years ago , i enjoyed the television show hee haw on sunday evenings.

  i naively thought it was wholesome family entertainment.

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  The very beautiful fiddle player in Buck Owens band [and his wife for 3 days] Jana Jae Greif was from Redding Calif. [school music teacher] started Dist. 6 of Calif. Old Time Fiddle Association. Which during the late 1970's and all of the 1980's put out more Weiser National Fiddle Champions than any where else in the nation. Hundreds of children got to learn fiddle music and enter fiddle contests because of her.

  And yes she was easy on the eyes.
  
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  writings of Conan Doyle.

  by zeb in

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  2. friends

  i have just began to read the above.

  yes he is the man who created the fictional detective sherlock holmes.

  in his first story called the "scarlett letter" he deals with (i stress this is fiction) with a couple escaping from the new paradise just founded in utah of the mormons.

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  The Danites were REAL, they were part of the Mormon Church during the Missouri period, they were brutal, sworn to follow ALL instructions whether right or wrong coming from church leaders. Especially against dissenters with in the church.

  Conan Doyle was as accurate in his research of fictional creditability as Tom Clancy was in our day.

  zeb it was a good post.